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Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:01 PM



Have you ever clipped text from a site and later found that the link Google Notebook associated with it takes you back to a page that doesn't have your clipped content anymore? I know I have. Luckily, there's a new feature in Notebook to help you see your note in its original context. In the newly released version of the Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer, if you clip part of a page that supports the hAtom standard, we will save the correct permalink and title for the text you clipped.

Say you're reading the Bird Lovers Only Rescue blog and notice the post from 5 January 2008 announcing a PBS Nature Series called Parrots in The Land Of Oz. You keep a notebook on TV shows about birds, so you select the text describing the show and clip it into Google Notebook. If you did this with an older version of Notebook, you would see the clipped text with the title "Bird Lovers Only Rescue" and http://birdloversonly.blogspot.com as the URL. But when you navigated back to this page later, you would only see the most recent posts, not the one you were trying to save. The post you wanted would be hiding somewhere in the site. But the new Toolbar with Notebook helps make sure your notes take you back to the right place.

Please note this feature only works on web pages that support hAtom and the number of sites that use this standard is limited. Here's a a list of sites that support hAtom, including popular news sources like People Magazine and numerous blogs. The Blogger platform supports hAtom for all blogs that use the new templating system.

We hope that more and more sites will support hAtom and other microformats in the future. If you want to modify your blog's template just enough to make Google Notebook find the permalink info, you can follow my instructions, which are intended for Blogger. If you know enough about HTML to customize your blog's template, you should be able to figure out how to apply them to other blogging software.

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Alex Chitu said...

I think there's a bug in your implementation. I clipped some text from the blog you've mentioned and Google Notebook added two notes:
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kushal said...

Good catch! The double-clipping bug should be fixed soon. For now, to get the permalink, you'll need to use the star button in the toolbar when you clip. This is a pretty experimental feature, so we're still getting the kinks out.

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Google Notebook doesn't capture the tab button input in firefox 3 beta 2 nor does Prism.

Thanks for this program, I love it and use it in school!

Guy Kindler said...

feature request: ACTIVE NOTES

In the Safari browser on apple computers, one can clip a contextual part of a web page and make it into a widget that actively updates when the page changes.

For example, one can clip the part of a newspaper site that shows the main headline, and you'll have a widget that always shows the current headline.

It would be great if one could do a similar thing with notes. I think such things would be really useful, but at the very least they would have a cool name: active notes.

Oh, and while I'm at it, since the current level of integration of gnotes with gmail and gcalendar is zero, it would be nice to at least have the option, through the drop-down menu of a note or notebook, to get a direct link to the note/book. This will enable a person to make a calendar entry or an email with a link to a note(e.g. "sunday 11am, take care of global warning, see *note*").

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kushal said...

Hi PT, the issue with missing bookmarks is unrelated to the integration, and rest assured we're working to fix it!

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Dean Michaud said...

Ditto with Google Bookmarks being borked - my bookmarks are almost all gone (95% or more); please fixxie fixxie!

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I clipped some text from the blog you've mentioned and Google Notebook added two notes:
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